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and put their life on the line everyday for us. >> miami lucky to have them. >> thank you so much. good to be with you, my friend. have a great weekend. time for "newsroom," with carol costello. >> thanks, guys. "newsroom" starts now. and good morning, i'm carol costello, thanks for joining me. donald trump shocks the political world, not such an unusual headline, right. but here is what is news worthy. first double down, backing off, he says he did not see that video of the u.s. delivering $400 million to iran in what trump has called a ransom payment to free americans. trump tweeting this morning, the plane i saw on television was the hostage plane in geneva, swirtser land, n- switzerland. let's begin with phil.
>> this isn't something that usually happens from donald trump or really the trump campaign. you pull up the tweet again, it is rather innocuous, but donald trump has repeated twice over the last couple of days, even as his campaign has said, it is not true. take a listen to what he said last night, after his campaign said this video didn't exist. >> the tape was made, right. you saw that with the airplane coming in. mice plane. and the airplane coming in, and the money coming off, i guess, right, that was given to us, has to be, by the iranians. and you know why the tape was given to us, because they want to embarrass our country. they want to embarrass our country. and they want to embarrass our president. >> now, carol, this was the second time donald trump told this story. i can tell you, after the first time, i reached out to administration officials, what is he talking about, did he get this in a classified briefing,
and for the most part were scratching their heads. they had no idea what he was talking about. turns out, the video doesn't exist. it is one of these issues over the course of the week, a very rough week, that continues to raise questions inside the republican party. the republican party that has started to back away in some cases. donald trump today has two rallies. he has been on message for the most part in the last couple of rallies, which is exactly what republicans want. however, one is in wisconsin. wisconsin is a powerhouse republican state when you look at top leaders. paul ryan, the house speaker, reince priebus, the chairman of the republican party, ron johnson, a key senator up for reelection, and -- >> paul ryan. >> paul ryan, and scott walker, who is considered one of the up and coming governors in the party. none of them will be attending his rally today in green bay. we saw the kerfuffle, that inside the republican party, when it comes to donald trump, there are a lot of questions and concerns. the assembly speaker for the wisconsin state assembly wrote
in an op ed today, let's get something straight. we are ryan republicans in wisconsin. not trump republicans. this is a state where donald trump lost big to ted cruz in the primary. it has a lot of work to do. this is smoesupposed to be a sw state. democrats haven't been giving him any help. president obama, who in the press conference he had yesterday, went after donald trump yesterday and also addressed the issue, asked of him by barbara starr, does he trust donald trump with the nuclear codes. listen. >> what is your assessment today as you stand here about whether donald trump can be trusted with america's nuclear weapons? >> just listen to what mr. trump has to say and make your own judgment with respect to how confident you feel about his ability to manage things like our nuclear triad. >> carol, this was part of a number of comments he made, pretty much putting to rest the
idea of him holding off a little bit in the election, but making clear, and kind of following a strategy that has put out by the clinton campaign, try to make it clear that donald trump is temperamentally unfit to sit in office. that's their strategy, that's what they've been trying to do and the president is buying in. another note here, this is percentnal for the president. i talked to white house voice advisors yesterday, and they noted when he looks at donald trump, he fears what donald trump would bring to the white house. not just for the obama legacy, but also for the country. white house advisors saying that, and that's why you see the president getting so emotional and forward on his comments. >> thank you so much, phil. so trump backtracks on his false claims about a top secret iran video, the former acting director of the cia, michael morrell issues a scathing assessment in the new york times op ed. donald trump is not only unqualified for the job, but may well pose a threat to our national security n sharp contrast to mrs. clinton, mr.
trump has no experience on national security, even more important, the character traits he has exhibited during the primary season suggest he would be a poor, even dangerous commander in chief. morrell is not alone in that assessment. other national security figures, say they all back clinton. so let's bring in our panel and let's talk about that. cnn political commentator and former cia counterterrorism analyst, buck sexton. scottie nell hughes, commentator and trump supporter, and democratic strategist, robert zimmerman. welcome to all of you. >> good morning. >> good morning. scottie, let's start with the secret iran video. mr. trump repeated the assertion at least twice, and that he tweeted this morning that the plane was actually in geneva, not in iran. but clinton's running mate, tim kaine is using that against trump. this is what he said this morning. >> i have no idea what he is talking about.
>> that video doesn't exist. >> it doesn't exist. he might be thinking about iran-contra from like 35 years ago, or something like this. he recently criticized me saying i was a bad governor of new jersey. >> confused you with tom cane. >> yeah, 26 years ago. it hurt my feelings, until i realized i wasn't governor of new jersey. he was confusing it with a situation from two or three decades ago. >> you think donald trump is confused? >> i absolutely think he is confused. >> so scottie, just respond to that. >> well, of course the clinton camp wants to keep the focus on trump. whether you agree or what the motivation of this money going to iran, what it was all about, the optics don't look good. we're seeing senior staff telling the "wall street journal," whether it was part of the payment wasn't a problem. it sends the wrong message to iran about how we handle these
types of situation. this a damaging story to the obama administration, and that's connected to hillary clinton, and the clinton campaign and so they're going to do everything they can. mr. trump apologized, like our reporter said, for the first time, you saw something, he actually said it. so let's move on. he actually he apologized, said it was the wrong b-roll he had been watching and moved on. what we're going to see -- >> i didn't see "i'm sorry" in that tweet. >> he corrected himself, that's different from like your reporter stated. like i said, the focus is not about donald trump's tweet. the focus is supposed to be on the $400 million of cash, in euros, whatever it was, in pallets, sent over to iran. what watts motivation and what exactly, why did we do this. what was the -- >> so robert, so robert, is scottie right? is tim kaine just deflecting so that we're not talking about an issue we ought to be talking about. >> i think tim kaine is being a gentleman saying donald trump is confused. when i was listening to scottie,
i think could use dramamine to go with that spin. donald trump doubled down, creating a fick thishtiotitious he won't even say he is wrong. this is a pattern with donald trump. it's the reason you see mike morrell of pointing out what a danger donald trump is to world security. not just mike morrell. george herbert walker bush's security advisor. congressman mike mccall, banning muslim into the country, would be a recruiting tool for isis, not to mention the retired general whose have stepped up and talk about donald trump being a threat to making us safer -- weaker as a country, weaker internationally rather than stronger. >> buck, you're former cia,
right, the president is worried about handing over intelligence briefings to trump. i guess the cia director prepares those for the presidential candidates. what do those security details entail? >> it will be very sensitive information. i do find it interesting that of these two candidates, only one of them has a proven record of an inability to handle classified information correctly. and that's hillary clinton. it is not donald trump. that's a matter of public record. that's from the fbi director himself. there was a disregard for the rules around classified information, sensitive information, and that there was a carelessness, extreme carelessness was the exact terminology that he used. so hillary clinton already has established that she is somebody who has trouble understanding how to handle this sort of information. ask questions about trump's temperament and whether he can deal with the fact that he'll be given all this sensitive data,
we don't have a question about hillary, we already have an answer. she has difficulty with this. she has been a security risk in the past, and quite honestly, if she wasn't up for the presidency, i think she would have trouble getting a basic security clearance. many people inside the intelligence community would agree. based on her record, she probably couldn't get any level of clearance, unless the american people vote her into office. >> robert, what do you say to that. >> i'm glad to respond. the reality here, if you want to make this election about e-mails, that's your prerogative. but there are issues here that -- that e-mail debate really matters to political pundits and members of the media. >> no, no, classified information and mishandling of classified information to important to the american people. >> i agree it is very important. she acknowledged she made a mistake, but in fact, buck is clearly overstating the issue. there was no evidence of classified information being hacked at all. there is no evidence that there was any crime committed here at all. that was documented by the fbi
director, and in fact, the fbi director acknowledged nothing that was classified and there was a lot of questions whether b what was classified and what was not and no evidence that hillary clinton sent or distributed -- >> no, that's not true. the fbi -- >> excuse me -- >> he is not wrong on every level, but he is wrong about that. the fbi director said there was classified e-mails sent back and forth. >> the fbi director also made a point -- >> it was up to the doj. no evidence of any crime. it is in fact illegal to transfer classified information and there was classified information. they just chose no to actually go forward under the statutes. >> excuse me, the fbi director said in testimony before the congress that in fact some of the issues were questionable whether they were classified or not, and could be easily misinterpreted as being classified or not being classified. that was testimony in front of the congress. it is very important and i understand what buck and what scottie are doing. i understand the politics of their arguments. but the bigger issue here, we have in donald trump an
individual who is advocated such reckless foreign policy agendas, from reinvading iraq, sharing with saudi arabia, even the economists said he is a global risk. it is very important to keep the focus here. mike morrell, brent snowkroft, amongst many others, the former bush treasury secretary, would not be standing up for hillary clinton if they did not -- if they believed she was a threat to the national security. putting together crippling sanctions against iran. negotiating between hamaas and israel. >> and i do think -- i do think -- >> this is getting a little out of control. >> i want to hear from scottie. because on that point, robert is right. all of these high-powered cia former officials are saying i trust hillary clinton with our
national security and i don't trust donald trump. so if they're worried about the e-mail controversy, they're not saying so, scottie. >> well, that's the funny part about all this. here, you have someone who a former secretary of state and having to pick a vp candidate based on his national security experience -- >> why aren't more high-powered people coming out and saying that donald trump is more trustworthy when it comes to national security? >> why, because everybody has their own personal opinion. that's the great thing. people are still attached to this strigadministration. and donald trump -- >> no, no, they're republicans included. morrell says he is neither democrat or republican and he served under bush and obama. >> it is interesting, because the bush administration, something that mr. trump has time and time again come against their foreign policies when we're talking about iraq. they may not be fans of mr.
trump after he has criticized their policies. >> name a fan of mr. trump's national security policies? >> general mike flynn, perfect one. somebody that's a democrat. >> name another one. >> sorry, i don't have a list of all of his national security people in front of me -- >> another layer here, if i may, scottie. i think it is important to point out that of course, hillary clinton is a former secretary of state. she knows the people of the national security and foreign policy apparatus personally quite well. she has relationships with them. it is not surprising they would come out in favor of her. >> quite to the contrary. if i could make a point. >> sir, we heard a lot about how great hillary is -- >> she is also the candidate. >> robert, i i'll get you in. >> when you look at her record on foreign policy, we're being asked now to say who supports her that's important, when people have been asked, state department spokespersons have
been asked, what are her accomplishments, we have had a deafening silence, because there has been nothing but foreign policy across the middle east and beyond the middle east, while barack obama has been in offers. so yes, she has more experience, but she has a record of failure. >> if i could point out. >> robert, points out. >> if i could just point out, very frankly, when buck says it is not surprising, in fact, not only is it surprising, it is unprecedented to see the number of republicans step up from the foreign policy community and endorse a democratic nominee for president. it is unprecedented to see so many generals step up and say donald trump represents a threat to our security and makes us weak are or a republican like mick mccall saying the strategies will make us weaker. for you to acknowledge and say this is typical, just is really void of any reality. >> i've worked in foreign policy and served in war zones and briefed the president. i don't think trump university, i wouldn't take that comment from you, sir. >> fair enough. i've got to stop it there.
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donald trump will campaign in green bay, wisconsin, today by his side, his running mate, mike pence, notably absent, prominent republicans like house speaker paul ryan, governor scott walker, or senator ron johnson, or rnc chairman and wisconsin native, reince priebus, saying they're too busy. trump has refused to endorse paul ryan threw him a bone, though. >> he said do you mind, because paul ryan is a good guy, actually. no, he is a good guy. >> all right, but trump really did put ryan in a bind. milwaukee newspaper, the journal
sentinel called for ryan to disavow trump. it said what will it take, speaker ryan, if not small minded contempt for a gold star family, then what? how far must trump go. stand on principle. disavow donald trump. as i said, it has left ryan to walk this fine line. this is what he said on talk show host, jerry bader show. >> none of these things are blank checks. that goes with any situation, in any kind of race. right now, it is important that the voters, you know, he won the delegates. he won the thing fair and square. it is just that simple. >> okay, with me now is jerry bader, who hosted paul ryan just yesterday. welcome, jerry, welcome back. >> morning. >> good morning. should paul ryan disavow donald trump? well, in my opinion, obviously i'm #nevertrump, but he has to do something. i kind of agree with trump here. if you're going to support him
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all right, donald trump will be campaigning in green bay, wisconsin, later today by his side, his running mate, mike pence, but nowhere to be found, paul ryan, running in a primary in the state of wisconsin, reince priebus, the rnc chair, will not be there, he is from wisconsin. senator ron johnson, who is also running for reelection, and neither will the wisconsin governor, scott walker.
all they said they were busy and other things to do. let's talk about that with swrerswrejerry bader. he joins us now by phone. we gave up on the skype, jerry. welcome back. >> i think so. >> so jerry, i was asking about you the milwaukee paper. they're usualing paul ryan to disavow donald trump. should he do that? >> in my opinion, yes, he should. and as i said earlier, before we broke up there, donald trump has kind of a twisted point, paul ryan endorsed him. he supports him. except he doesn't want to be in the same room with him tonight in green bay. so paul ryan has to decide, did he really endorse him or not. repu he has to support him, which i don't think he should do, or recognize he cannot walk this tight rope, i endorse him, geez,
i can't agree with this, this is indefensible. i think the general sentinel is right. he has to decide here. >> is paul ryan support hurting him in wisconsin? >> that, you know, is an interesting question and i would say no. here is, you know, if you look at the polls statewide, which is a congressional race, he is the most popular elected official in wisconsin. he is ridiculously popular in his first congressional district, 80%, and donald trump did not carry the first and april primary. did t does not appear to be hurting him. >> so donald trump wants to win wisconsin. does it make any sense to you why donald trump wouldn't endorse paul ryan? >> it doesn't, and it continues a pattern. and the journal sentinel points this out, he did this, if you will recall, right before the april 5th primary.
he was critical of governor walker and speaker ryan. he loses very badly to ted cruz. he comes right before another stop to green bay, which tactically, critically, it is smart, brown county is a critical county for wisconsin, no question about that, that part is right, but in advance of coming again, he fails to endorse the most popular republican in the state. >> so what are the polls showing in wisconsin? is hillary clinton ahead of donald trump? >> there hasn't been one recently, but yes, she is. hillary clinton is leaving in the state of wisconsin. we haven't seen anything, of course, post convention, of what's going on in wisconsin, and you know, nationally, she got a bump and then from her convention, and then donald trump chooses to have the week after that convention to be the worst week of this campaign, so i would imagine, as what you're
seeing nationally, the next snapshot we get in wisconsin will reflect that. >> so you're never trump guy. would you consider voting for hillary clinton? >> no. i wouldn't. i get asked that question a lot. i'm #nevertrump, #neverhillary. what i'm going to do, i haven't decided. gary johnson is a possibility. i'm going to vote down ticket, but i can't support either one. >> is there any sense that republicans in the state of wisconsin, at least some of them, are considering a vote for clinton? >> you know, certainly as far as i know, no elected officials, you know, as you're seeing in some of the other parts of the country. have i personally in my life heard people who have always voted republican say they would consider the possibility, yes. i've heard that. >> do you think they will? >> i don't know. i am not a mind reer, and i
suppose i would have to trust them to be honest, tell me what they did in the polls is what they did. she is leading in the polls here in wisconsin. and still, for a large segment and by large, i mean somewhere in the 25% range, people normally vote republican that i don't think will vote for him and what they do is, you know, i can't predict. but yes, it is critical to what happens here. >> all right, jerry bader, thank you so much. and thanks for sticking it out with us with technical problems. thank you for joining me this morning. >> thanks, carol. all right, we are following breaking news on the economy. wall street looking at a strong open this morning, after we learned just about an hour ago that 255,000 jobs were added to the u.s. economy last month. that's the second straight month of solid gains. the unemployment rate stays the same at 4.9%. we'll talk to chris lew in just a few minutes, as soorch n as h
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we are following breaking news on the economy. the dow jumping 100 points at the open, after hearing the news that 255,000 jobs were added last month. that's the second straight month of solid gains. the unemployment rate stayed the same, though. 4.9%. here to talk about that, i'm joined by chris lew, secretary for the u.s. department of labor. welcome, sir. >> carol, thank you for having me. >> first of all, congratulations on a good report. >> it was a great report. it shows continued strong growth across a broad base of different sectors. it is not only the longest job growth in history, we've created 15 million jobs during the course of this recovery. so across the board, this was a fantastic report. >> and of course, sometimes numbers don't tell the whole story. i was talking to our chief
business correspondent, christine romans, she called it a goldie locks number. not enough to have the feds raise interest rates. >> we made a practice of not commenting on what the fed will or won't do. we are continuing to focus on how we can keep the economic recovery going. to the extent there is more we can do, it is the air afterwages. in this month, we saw it increa increa increase, over the course of decades, so there is more we need to do on that front. >> you know that republicans and donald trump will say the number, this number that you've released isn't quite right, because there are millions of americans who have dropped out of the labor force and aren't counted as unemployed. what is the real unemployment number in your mind? >> well, the real unemployment is 4.9%. that's how we've been counting
it for years. this idea that somehow the numbers are cooked or that there is an unemployment rate of 40%, it is simply ludicrous. it depends if you want to count 16-year-olds and 80-year-olds. >> what about those who have dropped out of the work force who can't find jobs, for example, people over 55? >> well, you're right. we look carefully at the labor force participation rate, and it did tick up slightly this month. >> i can't hear you any more, mr. lu. >> can you hear me? >> can we fix his audio? >> hello. >> i so apologize for that. i think gremlins are affecting us. i apologize to mr. lu. you get the gist. the obama administration happy with the jobs report. 255,000 added to the economy, unemployment stays at 4.9%. for more, let's talk about
onchs ok okay, we're back. i want to bring back in chris lu. thanks for sticking around. i wanted to get your answer to the final question. what is the real unemployment rate. that is, people who have stopped looking for jobs? >> well, carol, the unemployment rate is 4.9%. the thrust of your question is, how do we get more people back in the labor force.
that's something we're committed to. not only the 55-year-old factory worker whose job has been laid off. it is the 22-year-old who graduates from college and can't find a full-time job. it is the mother who has taken time off to have a child and wants to get back into the labor force. we know the right policies. we know paid leave policies help people to get into the labor force. we know that sensible broad based growth policies, like infrastructure spending help people rise into the middle class. >> all right, chris lu, thank you so much for sticking around. thank you for joining me this morning. let's talk about the economy some more with our panel. the director for the university of virginia, senator for politics, larry sabato, and commentators join me, donald trump supporter, kayleigh and hilary rosen. larry, this jobs reports come out, it appears to be strong, 255,000 jobs added to the economy. how might this play?
>> well, it is good news for hillary clinton. it balances the bad news of that earlier report about the growth of the gross domestic product, which was only 1.2% in the second quarter. carol, something i've learned over the years. there is a blizzard of numbers related to the economy. these reports come out constantly. the real question is how does the voter interpret them. and there has been a lot of research there. surprise, surprise. the voter cares about the economy that he or she knows. that is, is he employed. is she employed. how about the immediate family members, are they fully employed. are they happy with their wages. if yes, they tend to vote for the incumbent party. unless their party i.d. contradicts it. if no, they're inclined to go with the opposition. so the numbers are interesting, and we love chewing on them, but the real numbers that matter are the individual microscopic
numbers for each individual and family. >> hilary, i think larry is right. you look at that jobs report and saying it isn't doing me any favors. >> well, true. and we saw in our cnn poll earlier this week that the majority of voters have feeling better, not just about the direction of the country, but about the job that president obama is doing, and i think, you know, as you rightly asked deputy secretary lu, do we have an economy that is moving forward. and the answer clearly is yes. and clearly, it is not enough. but not in these jobs reports are families that are feeling better because they're participating in a sharing economy, as an uber driver, or as, you know, an airbnb host. so you have very changing economic environment, you need a candidate and leader and president who understands the changing nature of work. who understands that women make
up more than half of the work force today, and you know, donald trump announces his economic counsel yesterday, and it is all white men. that is just -- it is not where we want to go as a country. it is not where we are in the current economic environment. >> okay, so kayleigh, i want you to respond to that. because mr. trump did release the names of his economic advisors, 15 names, lots of them are tycoons, real estate experts and you know, businesses real estate. but only one economist is in the mix. no women, no minorities. should that concern voters? >> i don't think so. i know that the left likes to look at every single issue through the prism of race and gender, but most people want an economy that works for them because right now, under the obama administration, the victims of the obama economy are minority, young men. are millennials. so the fact that donald trump put out a list of names that
include businessmen who know how the economy work, that's what we need. we need people who understand the economy. a politician who has never run anything in his life, which is barack obama, hadn't run anything in his life when he took office, the results are devastates. 1.2% gdp, and set to become the first president in american history not to have an annual 3% rate of growth. it is horrendous the economy. >> it is not horrendous. i don't want to go down that line. the economy is sluggish, no doubt about that. >> food stamps -- >> we had a huge recession in 2008. i just wanted this to be a fair discussion. that's all. kayleigh, i get it. a lot of people feel, still feel pain, i get that. the economy is sluggish for many people. but to say it is horrendous, that's going a step too far. i did want to ask you this, kayleigh, mr. trump agrees with mrs. clinton on one thing. both of them want to build infrastructure, right. i want to get the numbers right.
i'm going to look at this. so hillary clinton has proposed $275 billion for infrastructure, and mr. trump has proposed $550 billion in infrastructure. here is what he said, here is what he said in a recent interview. listen. >> we have a great plan, and we are going to rebuild our infrastructure, because without it, and by the way, her numbers are a fraction of what we're talking about. >> how much are you talking about? >> at least double her numbers. >> so he wants to invest all that money into rebuilding infracture. president obama has wanted to do that forever, so some might say it's a pretty surprising that donald trump has the same idea, kayleigh. >> obama wanted to take taxpayer money. he wants to take taxpayer money, not pay for infrastructure.
donald trump went on to say he wants to do infrastructure bonds. rather than just taking taxpayer dollars and revving up debt more. we're about to hit 20 trillion. he has a novel way to approach this and i think it's interesting unlike hillary clinton who, again, wants to run up debt. >> larry -- >> that's not true actually -- >> go ahead, hilary. >> let's just characterize hillary clinton's plan correctly. and indeed our stimulus has been working. we've had 80 months of job growth. but hillary clinton is looking at this in multiple ways. which is we do not want to run up debt the way donald trump is talking about, more bonding authorities, along with a multiple trillion dollar tax cut that most economists think will bankrupt the economy in a way that puts more debt on. trade barriers that end up rising prices for consumers. hillary clinton's balanced approach is to say we need to invest in infrastructure but we need to pay for it.
a couple of ways. you use an infrastructure bank with repatriated tax funds. you use corporate investment. you close loopholes. and you invest, importantly, in education, paid family leave. the kinds of policies that stimulate people going back to work. donald trump is only about sort of this trickle-down economic theory, let's give all the money to sort of the rich folk and hope they spend it in a way that gives money down the line. it's just never proven it worked. ronald reagan almost bankrupted the economy with it -- >> i want to get larry in here because he's my impartial guy so larry, infrastructure, a lot of americans might support that, do they? >> i think it's marvelous actually that both candidate s have a major infracture rebuilding campaign. carol in 50 years, we're not
going to be able to call ourselves a civilization unless we rebuild our infrastructure. it's crumbling in many regions of the country. this discussion has proven to be again with my very able co-panelists. the two most important letters in the english language are "d" and "r." if you're a democrat, you see all the good news about the economy. if you're a republican, you see all the bad news about the economy. maybe you put two sides of the coin together and you can actually go out. >> all right, i have to leave it there, larry sabato, kayleigh, hilary rosen, thanks to all of you. take that. a breathe right nasal strip instantly opens your nose up to 38% more than allergy medicine alone. shut your mouth and say goodnight, mouthbreathers. breathe right.
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protest in baltimore last year. you can see the crowds down there and later you'll see the fire that started. this is coming as jean casarez sat down with the attorneys of the officers charged in freddie gray's death. she joins me now. good morning. >> this video was just released. the defense attorneys, first time we're hearing from them here on cnn, are saying they believe these charges were politically motivated. of course there was a gag order so we couldn't hear from them before that. they also tell me they made the decision early on they were not going to talk, that they did not want their clients, the police officers in baltimore, to be tried in the public spotlight. but what we're learning now is that what they say that they heard back then that they could not talk about until now was that when these charges were about to come about, they learned there were conversations inside the prosecutor's office saying that that night, remember, the knife that was on the person of freddie gray, was actually illegal and so the
charges and the arrest would have been warranted. marilyn mosby publicly said the wife was a legal knife, that he was able to have it, that the charges were not warranted. listen to the defense response at this point to that. >> so from moment one, it was our position that miss mosby was misleading everyone. and continued to do that until she had no choice after she was caught and we inspected the knife and then she changed the focus. because her singular goal was to indict charge in her mind prosecute and convict these officers. >> we reached out to the state attorney's office for a response on this. they said they do have no comment. the defense went on to tell me, and we heard this in open court, through discovery process, they would learn about possibly exculpatory materials that they didn't have, they would ask the prosecution for it, they couldn't get it, the judge would demand the prosecution hand it over, but what about the medical
examiner that the lead detective said she had in her notes and she was toying with that this was all an accident. marilyn moss buy has said, the lead detective made that up, wrote those in the notes after the fact. here's the defense response to that. >> we'll never know. the problem with this case, it was rushed so quickly from the beginning that no one took their time to sort of sit down with the evidence, with the medical record, with the witness statements to really figure out what happened. the medical examiner issued her report in rapid time. the state attorney's office issued these charges in rapid time. so there's a question of the credibility of any of these resorts. >> now, of course, judge barry williams has dismissed all the outstanding charges. three of the officers were
acquitted by judge in this case. the defense wants their clients to be deemed innocent as a matter of law, however, because they believe that just saying there wasn't enough evidence to prove their guilt is not enough. marilyn mosby stands by the charges, stands by the probable cause, that there was none to arrest him. she said she is not anti-police, she is anti-police brutality. the next hour of "cnn newsroom" starts now. >> happening now in the "newsroom." >> what is going on? $400 million in cash flown in an airplane to iran. the tape was made of the airplane coming in, the money coming off, right, i guess. that was given to us by the iranians. >> trump takes it back it wasn't a planeful of money, so what was it. >> if they want to be president, they have to start act like president. >> as obama becomes attacker in chief. >> of course the elections will not be rigged.
what does that mean? >> as clinton faces down her own protesters. >> apparently these people are here to protest trump because trump and his kids have killed a lot of animals. >> let's talk live in the "cnn newsroom." >> good morning, i'm carol costello. the presidential campaign rolls into wisconsin with democrat tim kaine stumping in milwaukee and republicans trump and pence will hold a nighttime rally in green bay. but also making news, who will not be with the gop ticket, notably absent, prominent wisconsin republicans like house speaker paul ryan, governor scott walker, senator ron johnson and rnc chair and wisconsin native reince priebus. publicly, all have said they're just too busy to appear with mr. trump. privately, the uneasiness with trump seems apparent. today, a possible sign trump is moderating a bit. he now says he did not see
secret video of the u.s. delivering $400 million to iran in what trump has called a ransom payment to free americans. trump tweeting this morning, quote, the plane i saw on television was the hostage plane in geneva switzerland, not the plane carrying $400 million in cash going to iran. a simple acknowledgement that's causing big ripples this morning. let's begin with cnn's phil mattingly. >> it's just not something we've seen a lot from trump or his campaign. also a recognition on this, a story he told twice, one time after his campaign acknowledged it wasn't accurate, he was wrong. this is an effort to move on. it's what we heard from his advisers. while it's been a rough week and a week where donald trump has often been off message, that he has an opportunity to get back on message. one of the issues he needs to deal with and his advisers acknowledge he's try to before he can really move forward, disruptions within the republican party. and you mentioned wisconsin right now where obviously paul ryan in the middle of his own
primary race with against somebody who is a big donald trump backer and donald trump has given a nod to a couple times, also deciding not to endorse paul ryan. now this has outraged a lot of republicans behind closed doors. it's also made paul ryan a little bit wary on his endorsement of donald trump. take a listen. >> none of these things are ever blank checks. that goes with any situation. in any kind of race. but right now, i just think it's important that the voters, you know, he won the delegates, he won the thing fair and square, it's just that simple. >> obviously walking a thin line. opening up the possibility maybe there's something donald trump can do that would cause him to rescind the endorsement but making it clear donald trump won the primary and he is the nominee. underscores the problem paul ryan and senior republican officials have had over the last couple of months, especially the last couple of days, trying to figure out how to deal with their republican nominee when he strays far away from the issues they want him to talk about. you mentioned in wisconsin, a
swing state that republicans want to play in and also a state where republicans have a lot of the top republican officials. those officials not showing up today. the state assembly speaker saying we in wisconsin are the party of paul ryan republicans, not the party of trump republicans so clearly, carol, some issues in wisconsin. >> phil mattingly, thanks. as trump walks back false claims about that secret iran video, president obama is questioning whether trump can be trusted with nuclear codes. >> what is your assessment today as you stand here about whether donald trump can be trusted with america's nuclear weapons? >> just listen to what mr. trump has to say and make your own judgment with respect to how confident you feel about his ability to manage things like our nuclear triad. >> the former acting director of the cia now unleashing a scathing assessment of a potential trump presidency in a
"new york times" op-ed. quote, donald trump is not only unqualified for the job, he may well pose a threat to our national security. in sharp contrast to mrs. clinton, mr. trump has no experience on national security, even more important, the character traits he has exhibited during the primary season suggest he would be a poor, even dangerous commander in chief. that's michael morrell. let's bring in cnn's chief national security correspondent jim sciutto and cnn intelligence and security analyst bob baer, he's also a former cia operative, welcome to both of you. i think that many americans are wondering what exactly are in these secret briefings that will be turned over to these presidential candidates. jim, can you help us sort that out? >> sure, carol, i've spoken to the director of national intelligence clapper about these and he's spoken in public as well. this is by tradition, goes back to the truman days where once the candidates are nominated by their conventions they are given
one or possibly more briefings. there is classified material in those briefings. it doesn't go so far to the highest levels of classification, what intelligence people refer to as sources and methods, the most secret means of obtaining material, but it does contain classified information on major threats to u.s. national security. director clapper says he's already lined up the team to do these and they will be nonpolitical folks. they will be career members of the intelligence committee who will brief the candidates. basically when their schedules allow. to our knowledge, it hasn't happened yet but it should be happening soon. >> so, bob, the cia director gathers these briefings. is that how it works? >> they have a briefing staff that will go through intelligence of the day and by the time it gets to the candidate, it will be highly san
titz sanitized. they can make comments after reading these briefings. it's very unlikely they're going to put any sensitive secrets in these briefings. as jim said, sosurces and methos or highly classified intercepts, scis, compartment intelligence, so they will be fairly benign. they will be useful to the candidates, make them feel like they're on the inside but at the end of the day there's not a lot damage they can do with this intelligence. >> so president obama, jim, said he's -- i mean, he intimated he's a little worried donald trump will be part of the security briefings. mr. trump was bragging about seeing that top secret plane, right in iran with all the money on it. i would suspect the president would say how can voters trust donald trump not to brag about the real thing when he brags about this plane that never was? >> well, it was interesting to
hear the president yesterday because he makes the point both about the intelligence briefings but really about the bigger picture. can he if he were elected be trusted with these big national security decisions. yesterday, he didn't even go as far as he did in other interviews about he believe he's unfit to be president. i've heard and i imagine bob as well, longtime career cia officer, i've heard from lower level intelligence official also who are not authorized to speak publicly who in private will say they're concerned not just about sharing intelligence but also about the bigger picture national security situation based on some of donald trump's public comments. what you're seeing now is more senior people coming out and saying it. like mike morrell for instance writing about this in public. what was interesting in that op-ed, carol, which stood out to me, beyond saying he didn't believe he was fit to be president, he said that he -- that donald trump is, in effect, an unwitting agent for the
russian federation. this is a remarkable -- i mean, in an unprecedented election on so many levels, it's remarkable to hear the former director of the cia in effect accuse a presidential candidate of unwittingly working for a u.s. adversary. it's just remarkable. >> bob, i think that mike morrell went on to say that mr. putin kind of planted the seed for mr. trump to say exactly the things he's saying. do you believe that? >> you know, i don't know, but the fact that trump wasn't aware that russian invaded crimea and eastern ukraine is very troubling. it's also very troubling that an ex-cia director felt compelled to come out in public. normally cia officials just keep their politics to themselves and don't pick a candidate. especially a professional like morrell. and that just tells you how nasty this election is getting and i have no idea where this is going but as jim said this is
unprecedented. >> i have to bring up hillary clinton's, you know, the fbi director said she mishandled classified information. trump supporters say why are we not talking more about that, jim is that fair? >> listen, cnn's done its own fact checking as we did on donald trump's claims about the video and other statements about hillary clinton's now repeated claim that the fbi director affirmed that her public statements about her e-mails were accurate. in fact what james comey said she did not lie, did not commit perjury in her depositions with the fbi. he did not endorse her public statements about her e-mail use because, in fact, in public, as we've reported, carol, her statements have changed and the earlier statements turned out, based on the fbi investigation, to be false. for instance, she had said early on that she didn't send or receive any classified information. we know that not to be true at this point. she had said that the information was not classified at the time that the e-mails
were sent. it was classified kind of retroactively. we know that not to be true now. so to say that comey endorsed republican statements is just false. >> so how concerned should voters be about hillary clinton and classified information, bob? >> i listened, frankly, i don't trust trump or clinton on classified information. there's always been an arrogance in politics the way this stuff's been treated. case after case after case of white houses, candidates, leaking classified information around and the discipline inside the executive branch is terrible. i say this from a former intelligence officer's perspective. so, i mean, you know, both of them really have to tighten up and get serious about this. >> all right, i have to leave it there, jim sciutto, bob baer, thanks to both of you. still to come in the "newsroom," an african-american church picks their candidate donald trump. up next, i'm joined by an apostle from the congregation
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hmm. no reason. this sunday, top donald trump surrogates are heading to church, more specifically, the antioch road to glory. a predominant african-american church in charlotte, north carolina. why? well, the church is hosting a day endorsement event and the congregation has chosen their candidate, mr. trump. the keynote speakers include trump's daughter-in-law, and omarosa, trump campaign director of african-american outreach, and the ministry is not tax exempt which allows them to have a political event. here is apposal thomas roberts, antioch road to glory, and his daughter, who serves as church secretary. welcome to you both. >> thank you, carol. >> thank you for being here. i want to begin by reading a
recent post from your church about this upcoming event. quote, supporting hillary is like being with an abusive ex, one that you already know left you broken and wounded. at this point, give the new guy a chance. so, pastor rogers, what do you mean that hillary clinton is like an abusive ex? >> to me, i think that she is very dangerous and reckless. and her past track record is a great indication that i don't think she's fit to lead this country and no other country. >> katrina, why do you think hillary clinton is dangerous for the country? >> just by the policy that she has adopted. more specifically, especially endorsing the three strike crime bill of 1994 that was supported by 99%, pretty much all of our democrats except one. and so we want to break away
from more of the same, the politics that's gridlocked in washington, d.c. and instead let's reach out and do something new here. >> pastor, i was curious, why isn't mr. trump himself coming to your event? >> well, i highly recommend him and it would be a medicine to our community to see his face and his family. i think he's a very unique human being. he's strictly business. he's not a politician. and i think we're in need of that. i think we had too much republicans and democrats. i think we need an independent mind-set such as he has. and he's an acute business man. i have no quarrel with that. >> katrina, what specifically -- how specifically can donald trump help your community? >> well, we are endorsing mr. trump in hopes that he
endorse us. when i say us, i'm speaking to a demographic of people that has largely been left unrepresented in our communities and so we are looking forward to mr. trump endorsing pro africa american policies that will help garner and lead us to more job creations, entrepreneurship opportunities, especially with the international connection. more and more of this world is going to globalization. but more african-americans is left out of that equation. and so we are appealing to mr. trump to put more of these type policies intact. >> pastor rodgers, some african-americans are upset you're having this event in support of mr. trump. for example, joe lowery wrote on your church's facebook page, quote, trump is a racist misogynistic narcissist who will
never care about black people or any people of color or even poor white people. he only cares about himself and maybe his family. he's even indicated his desire to date his own daughter, which is a low blow, i admit. i don't know how much he's paying you but whatever it is, it's equal to 30 pieces of silver. pastor, how would you respond? >> i respond, now, we're not looking for love, we're looking for space to have our own ambition. we believe we could be a lesson to america. we have the largest community system in the world. most is african-americans. we elect people and we must point fingers at ourselves, not mr. trump. we are the ones in the '70s and the '60s that corrupt our communities. husbands leaving their wives, wives leaving their husband. the hit song by ray charles, "hit the road jack," and now we're suffering catastrophically
because of these policies and we're suffering today. >> there were many comments on your facebook page from people wondering if the trump people paid you to hold this event. can you clear that up for them? >> there was no exchange of funds. we reached out to trump's north carolina state director who even prior to him being a state director for trump, he was here in charlotte, north carolina. so we had already established a relationship. i assure you there was no dollars exchanged. no favors given. this is any attempt like any other attempt during any electoral. they visit our churches every four years. we just open up our doors and
said for mr. trump we could identify with certain things and we thought our agenda could definitely grab hold to presenting ourselves and our vision to him to endorse us as well. >> thank you for being with me this morning. >> thank you, carol. with me now john phillips, cnn political common tamter and trump supporter and s.e. cupp, political commentator. welcome to both of you. john what do you think about that? >> well, some of the language you heard repeated over and over again by the pastor and his daughter was left out and that's language that hillary clinton and bill clinton both used on the campaign trail as they campaigned in the rust belt and the rural portions of the country. people are left behind. i'm here to represent those people. the people that have been left out. well, donald trump needs to answer the question left behind by who. president obama's been in charge for eight years.
hillary clinton's essentially running as the third term of the president's agenda. if he is going to put together a winning coalition, it's going to come from the rest belt and the rural south. and he's going to have to target black voters in those areas with the same economic message he's been targeting white voters. those streepindustries are unde attack. those regions lacking behind the country. they've frankly been ignored by washington, d.c. >> s.e., i just found it interesting because donald trump has minimal support among african-americans. in some states, he has zero percent support. >> as much as you and i have. >> so does this come a little too late? >> the pastor and his daughter made a compelling case. john is right, you know, there's a lot of people in the african-american community who feel left out. and that some have found some hope in trump is, i guess, not
surprising. as you point out, in key states like pennsylvania and ohio, he is polling at zero percent with african-americans. i think nationally he's polling at around 6%. so, you know, the way a pastor warrants endorsement might indicate some kinds of white evangelical voters would be going in a direction for that kind of candidate. i think the endorsement of this one church in charlotte, north carolina, might not indicate that trump is going to do well among african-americans. he simply is not. it's a little late in the game to make up the ground that he would have to with that particular group. for small endorsements like this to really matter. >> well, you know, and i think if you talked to a lot of african-american voters, john, they would bring up things like remember last november trump tweeted a graphic of false crime statistics comparing blacks killed by blacks and blacks
killed byincluded this image. on jewel 6, mr. trump sought to tout his support of african-americans by pointing out a black man in the crowd and calling him my african-american. african-american, you know, words matter and they linger. >> yeah, i hope part of the intervention that's going down this weekend is going to involve giving donald trump my internet connection because that way he won't be able to sign on to twitter. he has very acurimonious relationship with the republican establishment. the republican establishment has a bad relationship with black voters. if donald trump were to go to black voters and say, look, i'm an honest broker here, the republican establishment hates me just as much as the washington, d.c. establishment, so let's go ahead and see if we can work together and work on these economic issues that have been destroying the regions that many of you live in.
>> that sounds great, but the problem is, trump has three problems. one, for this particular group. one, obama is popular and many are going to vote for hillary clinton because obama endorsed her. two, you can't run a campaign accusely targeting white nationalists pretending not to know who david duke is and hope that african-americans didn't hear that and see that. they did. but the third thing is i've talked to leaders in african-american communities and activists and they've said simply look for many african-americans we are hurting. we're hurting economically. we're hurting culturally, socially. for all of the reasons and the stories we've been covering in the past few years. to them, donald trump simply looks like an insensitive clown. someone who's incompetent. someone who's not the right temperament to deal with these kinds of very serious, very
complex cultural problems that have befallen many in african-american communities. so again, like everything else, donald trump's temperament is really the key to his lack of success in the polls in various kinds of communities. >> all right, i have to leave it there. john phillips, s.e. cupp, thanks to both of you. july's positive job robeepo gives a boost to the stock market. ahead, we break down the numbers. credit scorecard. (to dog)give it. sure! it's free for everyone. oh! well that's nice! and checking your score won't hurt your credit. oh! (to dog)i'm so proud of you. well thank you. get your free credit scorecard at discover.com. even if you're not a customer.
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and good morning, i'm carol cost spe costello, thank you for joining me. a really good jobs report for july from the labor department. christine romans is here to break down the numbers for us, good morning. >> good morning, carol. a couple of strong months now. when you look at june and july, you see the strongest job creation of the year. in fact, there you go, 255,000 net new jobs created. the unemployment rate, you know, it would have gone down. here's why it didn't. people came out of the sidelines and started looking for work again. you've heard a lot of talk about these people left behind. some of those people are starting to come back and get jobs. when i look at the industries, i see jobs in health care, also office jobs, jobs that pay a little more. a lot of computer technicians, technical jobs, management, engineering. we're seeing an awful lot leisure and hospitality jobs. thosere tending to pay more now because the states have been
raising their minimum wages. some retail chains have been raising minimum wages. also for wages overall, 2.6% wage growth. that's important. a little bit of wage growth is something we want to continue to see. we'd like to see a lot more than that. wage growth is something that's important here. >> so put it the in perspective for us. pre-2008, everybody thought we were doing good. how does the economy compare? >> 2007, 2008, 2009 was a catastrophe. now we are starting to create jobs. about 14 million from the very worst point of the recession to now. more than 14 million jobs have been created. what we haven't seen is wage growth. what we haven't seen is a lot of job creation at the high end. the first part of the recovery was a lot of low-wage jobs. a lot of college kids felt like they were coming out of college with a college degree and they were getting bartending jobs or whatever. but more recently, the recovery and the jobs have been for
college graduates and for higher skills. so that's what we've been seeing. a broader mix of the kind of jobs we've been seeing. i would like to see more job creation with higher wages. but what we're seeing here is the best job situation for people employed in years. in years, quite frankly. >> so what are the republicans saying about it? >> donald trump's campaign issued a statement on these economic numbers saying the economy, the media and clinton machine portray doesn't exist for millions of americans. they point out whole neighborhoods have been offshored and outsourced and talked about how donald trump has policies to prevent that, the trade deficit is too high, et cetera. also pointing out the people who are side lined, the labor force participation rate is something declining over the past actually decades. as baby boomers retire. so they're not working because they're retiring. also people have been pushed out of the market. people have been going back to college, grad school and the like and some people have been left behind. some people have left the labor market, carol, because child care costs are too high or to
get a job in their field they have to move somewhere and they can't move for family reasons. there's a lot of different reasons why people have fallen out of the labor market. the question is if the job market continues to grow like this, will those people decide to start coming back in. >> you know, what companies talk about is the scarcity of workers in some fields. and that's hard to imagine when you're on the campaign trail and you see the fear and anxiety among rust belt -- working class voters who think there is not opportunity for them. there aren't pay raises for them. it really i think one america, two economies. in that one economy, the job market numbers shown here today is doing very, very well. the other one is what's driving the donald trump campaign. >> all right, christine romans, thanks so much. hillary clinton under fire after repeating a debunked claim that the fbi said she was being truthful when asked about her private e-mail server. in an interview with kusa about what was in her deleted e-mails, clinton said, quote, it was all personal stuff and we've said that consistently. as the fbi said, everything that
i've said publicly has been consistent and truthful with what i've told them. but as jake tapper -- jake tapper does the fact check. >> it's jake tapper from cnn's "state of the union." and factcheck.org. she was confronted with comments she made on the campaign trail repeatedly telling the american people she had never sent or received any classified material on her private e-mail server. >> after a long investigation, fbi director james comey said none of those things that you told the american public were true. >> chris, that's not what i heard director comey say and i thank you for giving me the opportunity to, in my view, clarify. director comey said my answers were truthful and what i said is consistent with what i told the american people, that there were
decisions discussed and made to classify retroactively certain of the e-mails. >> is that true? did fbi director james comey testify that the repeated comments hillary clinton had made to the public about her private e-mail server, quote, were truthful? no. that is not true. according to her campaign aides, what hillary clinton was referring to was director comey testifying, quote, we have no basis to conclude she lied to the fbi. clinton's comments to the fbi are different from what chris wallace was asking about, which were clinton's comments to the american people. congressman trey gowdy had asked director comey about a number of the comments hillary clinton had made to the american people and here's how some of that went. >> secretary clinton said there was nothing marked classified on her e-mails either sent or received. was that true? >> that's not true.
there were a small number of portion markings on i think three of the documents. >> secretary clinton said did i not e-mail any classified material to anyone on my e-mail, there is no classified material, was that true? >> there was classified material e-mailed. >> here's what we know about hillary clinton's e-mails. more than 2,000 of the 349,000 e-mails clinton gave to the state department in 2014 did contain classified information. most of it was classified retroactively. but 110 e-mails in 52 different e-mail chains contained classified information that was classified at the time the e-mails were sent or received. three of the e-mails included classified markings, but they were not marked properly. here's the bottom line. a though comey did testify many of the emays contained information classified retroactively he did say some of
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all week long we've been talking about the deadly dangers of driving while distracted. are these messages really hitting home? kelly wallace explores solutions, including how one community in louisiana has a unique take on the subject by using drama to prevent it. [ crying ] >> come on. >> parents lay their teenager to
rest after a crash in which her friends were drinking and driving and texting. thankfully this isn't real life. it's a program called choices. every choice comes with a price. created by the sheriff's office in louisiana. nearly 200 high school students participate in a mock crash and act out the consequences afterward. the video is then shown in high schools throughout the community. >> they're going to read you your rights. >> it sounds so simple, don't use your phone while driving. seeing the consequences helps drive the point home. in long island, new york, another message. students take a ride on the distracted driving simulator and see how quickly things go wrong. >> i'm just sending a text to my
friend, no big deal, the next thing know, you swerve into the person next to you. >> for matt who lost his wife to a distracted drive, and laura, who killed a grandfather while glancing at a text, speaking up can save lives. >> it can wait. there's nothing worth it. nothing that important. realize it's our lives. >> andrea's always trying to make things better. she's also a fixer, a doer. this is why i'm doing this, to get the word out, that distracted driving is -- it's a major offense. it's something that can change lives and it changed ours. >> currently 46 states in washington, d.c. have laws banning texting and driving and 14 states make it a crime to pick up a handheld device while behind the wheel. as we know, enforcement of these
laws is always very tough. >> it is very tough. i mean, the police officer has to be ever vigilant and look in people's cars. do you have any sense about how many tickets police do give out to distracted drivers or people using their phones? >> we have some sense these high visibility campaigns when they advertise there's going to be checkpoints, these would be texting and driving, there have been some pilot programs in new york and connecticut. there was about a 30% drop in cell phone use and texting behind the wheel. those results are promising in a way they kind of serve as a deterre deterrent, right if people know there's a checkpoint, they won't do it, and hopefully they'll continue to think that way when they're behind the wheel. >> i hope so, kelly wallace, thank you. kelly's special "driving while distracted" airs tomorrow afternoon, 2:30 p.m. only on cnn. i'll be right back.
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